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		<title>Comment on Jill and Kevin&#8217;s viral wedding video: just a marketing trick? by Virales Marketing</title>
		<link>http://www.web-jungle.com/2009/12/13/jill-and-kevins-viral-wedding-video-just-a-marketing-trick/comment-page-1/#comment-170697</link>
		<dc:creator>Virales Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great viral video! But for sure my marriage would not turn into a dancing event...</description>
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		<title>Comment on The valuable relationship between SEO and SMM by Head Alienst</title>
		<link>http://www.web-jungle.com/2009/12/06/the-valuable-relationship-between-seo-and-smm/comment-page-1/#comment-168511</link>
		<dc:creator>Head Alienst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent points, any business owner who would attempt to market by only using SEO or SMM Online marketing services respectively is essentially wasting their time. They may generate some relevance, but at the end of the day.. the lack of &quot;viral consumer confidence&quot; will eliminate any gains and put them back at the beginning. VCC will be the next stage in the evolution of SMM and SEO. 

At present most employers review potential candidates Social Networking pages in order to make hiring decisions. Does it not also make sense that Potential Customers to your business will begin to seek out those businesses which provide them some social networking interaction. They gain confidence, review your other clients, keep up to speed on your promotions and specials. This is how long term business is built.

One the other side, the business with no SMM to speak of is relying solely on SEO ranking which is already a time consuming proposition. You can use SMM to grow your SEO, grow your client confidence in your product and create Viral Consumer Confidence. However, neither method will make it alone so be smart about how you market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent points, any business owner who would attempt to market by only using SEO or SMM Online marketing services respectively is essentially wasting their time. They may generate some relevance, but at the end of the day.. the lack of &#8220;viral consumer confidence&#8221; will eliminate any gains and put them back at the beginning. VCC will be the next stage in the evolution of SMM and SEO. </p>
<p>At present most employers review potential candidates Social Networking pages in order to make hiring decisions. Does it not also make sense that Potential Customers to your business will begin to seek out those businesses which provide them some social networking interaction. They gain confidence, review your other clients, keep up to speed on your promotions and specials. This is how long term business is built.</p>
<p>One the other side, the business with no SMM to speak of is relying solely on SEO ranking which is already a time consuming proposition. You can use SMM to grow your SEO, grow your client confidence in your product and create Viral Consumer Confidence. However, neither method will make it alone so be smart about how you market.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Where the hell is Matt&#8221; was a hoax, admits Matt. by Sean O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://www.web-jungle.com/2009/01/04/where-the-hell-is-matt-was-a-hoax-admits-matt/comment-page-1/#comment-165927</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you watch closely and pause at 8 min 73 seconds, and have a decent magnifying glass, you&#039;ll see that this is not the real Matt.  It&#039;s actually an annamatronic puppet.  Much easier and cheaper to just have to make the one.  It&#039;s scarily real though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you watch closely and pause at 8 min 73 seconds, and have a decent magnifying glass, you&#8217;ll see that this is not the real Matt.  It&#8217;s actually an annamatronic puppet.  Much easier and cheaper to just have to make the one.  It&#8217;s scarily real though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Social Media ROI: the video by Social Media &#8211; Interessante Fakten zum ROI. :: Steffen Zörnig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Social Media &#8211; Interessante Fakten zum ROI. :: Steffen Zörnig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] erfolgreich ist Social Media eigentlich wirklich? Im folgenden Video (gefunden bei Roland) bekommt man dazu einige Fakten und Zahlen [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Expedia Guerilla Advertising. by Roland Hachmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roland Hachmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fand ich auch ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fand ich auch <img src='http://www.web-jungle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Expedia Guerilla Advertising. by Gerald Hensel</title>
		<link>http://www.web-jungle.com/2009/11/12/expedia-guerilla-advertising/comment-page-1/#comment-164479</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Hensel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ach, nice. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ach, nice. <img src='http://www.web-jungle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Poptent &#8211; crowdsourcing video productions by Roland Hachmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roland Hachmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark,

thanks for the offer, I would like to check out your site in more detail at some point. I will let you know, since I am on a project the next 2 weeks.</description>
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<p>thanks for the offer, I would like to check out your site in more detail at some point. I will let you know, since I am on a project the next 2 weeks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Poptent &#8211; crowdsourcing video productions by Mark Schoneveld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Schoneveld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Roland, thanks for the write up!  I&#039;d be happy to show you around Poptent a little more.  I think you have a good handle on the process, but if you have any more questions, please don&#039;t hesitate to ask!  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Roland, thanks for the write up!  I&#8217;d be happy to show you around Poptent a little more.  I think you have a good handle on the process, but if you have any more questions, please don&#8217;t hesitate to ask!  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ripple Effect &#8211; a new book on word-of-mouth by empowerment by Martin Oetting</title>
		<link>http://www.web-jungle.com/2009/10/13/ripple-effect-a-new-book-on-word-of-mouth-by-empowerment/comment-page-1/#comment-160923</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Oetting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, thanks so much for posting this! :) I will prepare an English Social Media Release also. Just need to find the time ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, thanks so much for posting this! <img src='http://www.web-jungle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I will prepare an English Social Media Release also. Just need to find the time &#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fiesta Movement: a social media influencer aggregation campaign by Some results from the Fiesta Movement activity : Web Jungle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Some results from the Fiesta Movement activity : Web Jungle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] already blogged about the Fiesta Movement social media activity. Now there are some results, published at adrants: The program &#8212; which included a test-drive [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;New&#8221; Online Game by Absolut Vodka by adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post - thanks for sharing!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Recent crowdsourcing campaigns and the risk of speculative work by Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.web-jungle.com/2009/08/31/recent-crowdsourcing-campaigns-and-the-risk-of-speculative-work/comment-page-1/#comment-153828</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Roland,

Its a pleasure - always keen to discuss a topic like this.

1) You are right to a certain extent here - But I dont think it does away with the need for a creative agency all together. I think the key thing to understand is that a brief on Idea Bounty will only work for a brand or product which is already established and has had its brand and image created and established already. This is where I see the creative agencies true roll being - there is no way you can get the public to create a brand from scratch for you and I still believe the foundations of the brand need to be built by a team of professional creative people. 

The Peperami brief is almost a case in point here. Lowe spent 15 years doing a brilliant job on building one of the strongest snack brands in the UK - however having the same team working on a brand for 15 years has to come to an end at some point. No matter how good you are sooner or later you are going to run out ideas for a brand that you have been working on for that long. Unilever felt that they needed some fresh minds to work on the brand. I think the key point here is that crowdsourcing is only going to be effective for existing brands and campaigns - starting something from scratch requires the input of a professional creative agency. The question I ask myself is why have agencies, like Lowe, not thought of this route themselves? If an agency managed a brand to such a strong point and its felt that new and fresh ideas are needed I can see a perfect opportunity for them to suggest that clients make use of crowdsourcing platforms like Idea Bounty - they then have the opportunity to execute the idea (and perhaps even develop it further)  

There is a really nice Q&amp;A with Noam Buchalter - the marketing manager of Peperami - on this topic on Econsultancy: http://econsultancy.com/blog/4511-q-a-unilever-s-noam-buchalter-on-crowdsourcing-peperami-ads

2) In terms of a suitable model - No I dont think its for all brands. Established brands will defiantly get better results off a project like this than a relatively unknown brand. The reasons for this I think purely come down to the fact that the public will already be familiar with an established brand and will have their own ideas and emotional connections with the brand that will allow them to generate great ideas. Infact this is why the ideas we receive are often so fresh - the public will have different ideas and insights that others might not have purely by virtue of their perspective. 

In terms of people getting bored - I believe that as more brands start making use of the model the people submitting ideas will be users who have a natural liking for the brand anyway - call them your brand fans. Personally I would love to work on ideas for an Apple campaign as I love the brand. These are the people who are going to want to be engaging with anyway and they are more likely to have better ideas. It is an interesting point you raise and im not too sure how it will play out - with that one I guess we will just have to see what happens.

3) Idea Bounty is an independent platform - we have hosted briefs for brands such as Red Bull, BMW and WWF in the past. More here -http://www.ideabounty.com/what-is

Thank you for kicking off this debate - I think we are living in interesting times and its always awesome to see people engaging on topics like this. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Roland,</p>
<p>Its a pleasure &#8211; always keen to discuss a topic like this.</p>
<p>1) You are right to a certain extent here &#8211; But I dont think it does away with the need for a creative agency all together. I think the key thing to understand is that a brief on Idea Bounty will only work for a brand or product which is already established and has had its brand and image created and established already. This is where I see the creative agencies true roll being &#8211; there is no way you can get the public to create a brand from scratch for you and I still believe the foundations of the brand need to be built by a team of professional creative people. </p>
<p>The Peperami brief is almost a case in point here. Lowe spent 15 years doing a brilliant job on building one of the strongest snack brands in the UK &#8211; however having the same team working on a brand for 15 years has to come to an end at some point. No matter how good you are sooner or later you are going to run out ideas for a brand that you have been working on for that long. Unilever felt that they needed some fresh minds to work on the brand. I think the key point here is that crowdsourcing is only going to be effective for existing brands and campaigns &#8211; starting something from scratch requires the input of a professional creative agency. The question I ask myself is why have agencies, like Lowe, not thought of this route themselves? If an agency managed a brand to such a strong point and its felt that new and fresh ideas are needed I can see a perfect opportunity for them to suggest that clients make use of crowdsourcing platforms like Idea Bounty &#8211; they then have the opportunity to execute the idea (and perhaps even develop it further)  </p>
<p>There is a really nice Q&amp;A with Noam Buchalter &#8211; the marketing manager of Peperami &#8211; on this topic on Econsultancy: <a href="http://econsultancy.com/blog/4511-q-a-unilever-s-noam-buchalter-on-crowdsourcing-peperami-ads" rel="nofollow">http://econsultancy.com/blog/4511-q-a-unilever-s-noam-buchalter-on-crowdsourcing-peperami-ads</a></p>
<p>2) In terms of a suitable model &#8211; No I dont think its for all brands. Established brands will defiantly get better results off a project like this than a relatively unknown brand. The reasons for this I think purely come down to the fact that the public will already be familiar with an established brand and will have their own ideas and emotional connections with the brand that will allow them to generate great ideas. Infact this is why the ideas we receive are often so fresh &#8211; the public will have different ideas and insights that others might not have purely by virtue of their perspective. </p>
<p>In terms of people getting bored &#8211; I believe that as more brands start making use of the model the people submitting ideas will be users who have a natural liking for the brand anyway &#8211; call them your brand fans. Personally I would love to work on ideas for an Apple campaign as I love the brand. These are the people who are going to want to be engaging with anyway and they are more likely to have better ideas. It is an interesting point you raise and im not too sure how it will play out &#8211; with that one I guess we will just have to see what happens.</p>
<p>3) Idea Bounty is an independent platform &#8211; we have hosted briefs for brands such as Red Bull, BMW and WWF in the past. More here -http://www.ideabounty.com/what-is</p>
<p>Thank you for kicking off this debate &#8211; I think we are living in interesting times and its always awesome to see people engaging on topics like this. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hornbach is sponsoring ambitious DIY projects of users. by Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 05:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume &quot;wahnwitzig&quot; would translate to &quot;insane&quot; ... :)

Cool idea though ... but what the hell could I start????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume &#8220;wahnwitzig&#8221; would translate to &#8220;insane&#8221; &#8230; <img src='http://www.web-jungle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cool idea though &#8230; but what the hell could I start????</p>
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		<title>Comment on Recent crowdsourcing campaigns and the risk of speculative work by Hornbach is sponsoring ambitious projects of users. : Web Jungle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hornbach is sponsoring ambitious projects of users. : Web Jungle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Recent crowdsourcing campaigns and the risk of speculative work by Roland Hachmann</title>
		<link>http://www.web-jungle.com/2009/08/31/recent-crowdsourcing-campaigns-and-the-risk-of-speculative-work/comment-page-1/#comment-153675</link>
		<dc:creator>Roland Hachmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Daniel,
thanks for your timely reply to shed some light on the background to your approach. I appreciate that very much, since I find these kind of campaigns very interesting and am hence curious about these facts.
In fact, I would like to know three more things about what you mentioned: 
1) While you make it clear, that there will still be a need for production companies, I don&#039;t see any room for creative agencies in your model since the process of idea creation is crowd sourced. I&#039;m not against this approach, however it does undermine the business model of a considerably large industry...
2) do you reckon, this model is sustainable for a broad range of brands? Don&#039;t you think people get bored of producing ideas once many brands engage in crowdsourcing activities like these?
3) is ideabounty a platform established by Unilever/Peperami, or are you an independent service provider?

many thanks again for your comment, and I will be curious to find out more about your thoughts to my points above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Daniel,<br />
thanks for your timely reply to shed some light on the background to your approach. I appreciate that very much, since I find these kind of campaigns very interesting and am hence curious about these facts.<br />
In fact, I would like to know three more things about what you mentioned:<br />
1) While you make it clear, that there will still be a need for production companies, I don&#8217;t see any room for creative agencies in your model since the process of idea creation is crowd sourced. I&#8217;m not against this approach, however it does undermine the business model of a considerably large industry&#8230;<br />
2) do you reckon, this model is sustainable for a broad range of brands? Don&#8217;t you think people get bored of producing ideas once many brands engage in crowdsourcing activities like these?<br />
3) is ideabounty a platform established by Unilever/Peperami, or are you an independent service provider?</p>
<p>many thanks again for your comment, and I will be curious to find out more about your thoughts to my points above.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Recent crowdsourcing campaigns and the risk of speculative work by Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.web-jungle.com/2009/08/31/recent-crowdsourcing-campaigns-and-the-risk-of-speculative-work/comment-page-1/#comment-153672</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Roland, 

Thanks for your comments. I represent Idea Bounty, the platform that the Peperami brief is being hosted on. 

Just in answer to some of your points. Unlike the Pringles and Doritos competitions the brief for Peperami on Idea Bounty is looking for just the idea or concept for a new campaign not a complete TV ad which is what Pringles/Doritos were looking for. Once the best idea has been chosen it will be handed over to a creative production company based in London called SmartWorks – they will take the idea and craft it into a executed campaign.

Yes, this route is cheaper than going through the same process with an agency but its not the main motivation for crowdsourcing – The biggest attraction is defiantly the wide range of creative ideas that brands open themselves up to receiving. There are also limitations to this route - the first being that it will only work for specific and well defined tasks that everyone can take on without &#039;screwing up&#039; on it. These briefs usually come from well established brands that have had the benefit of a dedicated team of people working to build and craft it to a point where the public (who in some arguments end up accepting the brand and therefore making it truly what it is) can identify with it so strongly that it is possible to crowdsource. Infact to me this is the point of creating a brand and any agency that manages a client to this point should be, in my eyes, proud about it.  

Again I say this is not a competition looking for a finished bit of work - crowdsourcing might work for small things like a logo but we dont expect the public to have the professional skill to execute and develop an Idea. We still need professional creatives for this task - In Unilever&#039;s case SmartWorks. The briefs on Idea Bounty look for the Idea, the concept behind a campaign, not a complete product. 

I might also add that if you think about it there is no way you as an individual working in an agency get paid $10 000 for a single idea - so I cant see why there are creatives complaining. Especially when the legal system behind Idea Bounty registers your submission as your own IP, by accepting the $10 000 Bounty you are selling your IP to the client. Unless this happens the Idea remains yours. 

Ultimately I see this is just the next stage in the evolution of marketing: it is inherently more sensitive to market-forces, it levels the playing fields as far as creatives are concerned (giving them the opportunity to communicate their ideas to well developed global brands) and it opens brands to a limitless number of new, innovative marketing ideas. And it doesn’t remove the need for traditional agencies, as the ideas generated will still need to be implemented - and on top of that the brands created and developed in the first place. 

Thanks again for the comments - If anyone would like to contact me to find out more, or get stuck more into the crowdsourcing debate please feel free to mail me - daniel@ideabounty.com

Cheers, Daniel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Roland, </p>
<p>Thanks for your comments. I represent Idea Bounty, the platform that the Peperami brief is being hosted on. </p>
<p>Just in answer to some of your points. Unlike the Pringles and Doritos competitions the brief for Peperami on Idea Bounty is looking for just the idea or concept for a new campaign not a complete TV ad which is what Pringles/Doritos were looking for. Once the best idea has been chosen it will be handed over to a creative production company based in London called SmartWorks – they will take the idea and craft it into a executed campaign.</p>
<p>Yes, this route is cheaper than going through the same process with an agency but its not the main motivation for crowdsourcing – The biggest attraction is defiantly the wide range of creative ideas that brands open themselves up to receiving. There are also limitations to this route &#8211; the first being that it will only work for specific and well defined tasks that everyone can take on without &#8217;screwing up&#8217; on it. These briefs usually come from well established brands that have had the benefit of a dedicated team of people working to build and craft it to a point where the public (who in some arguments end up accepting the brand and therefore making it truly what it is) can identify with it so strongly that it is possible to crowdsource. Infact to me this is the point of creating a brand and any agency that manages a client to this point should be, in my eyes, proud about it.  </p>
<p>Again I say this is not a competition looking for a finished bit of work &#8211; crowdsourcing might work for small things like a logo but we dont expect the public to have the professional skill to execute and develop an Idea. We still need professional creatives for this task &#8211; In Unilever&#8217;s case SmartWorks. The briefs on Idea Bounty look for the Idea, the concept behind a campaign, not a complete product. </p>
<p>I might also add that if you think about it there is no way you as an individual working in an agency get paid $10 000 for a single idea &#8211; so I cant see why there are creatives complaining. Especially when the legal system behind Idea Bounty registers your submission as your own IP, by accepting the $10 000 Bounty you are selling your IP to the client. Unless this happens the Idea remains yours. </p>
<p>Ultimately I see this is just the next stage in the evolution of marketing: it is inherently more sensitive to market-forces, it levels the playing fields as far as creatives are concerned (giving them the opportunity to communicate their ideas to well developed global brands) and it opens brands to a limitless number of new, innovative marketing ideas. And it doesn’t remove the need for traditional agencies, as the ideas generated will still need to be implemented &#8211; and on top of that the brands created and developed in the first place. </p>
<p>Thanks again for the comments &#8211; If anyone would like to contact me to find out more, or get stuck more into the crowdsourcing debate please feel free to mail me &#8211; <a href="mailto:daniel@ideabounty.com">daniel@ideabounty.com</a></p>
<p>Cheers, Daniel</p>
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		<dc:creator>Roland Hachmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi Jacob,

when seeding &quot;dofollow&quot; links to sites, you should use proper html syntax ;) 
I approved you comment unaltered just for a laugh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi Jacob,</p>
<p>when seeding &#8220;dofollow&#8221; links to sites, you should use proper html syntax <img src='http://www.web-jungle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I approved you comment unaltered just for a laugh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Toyota Scion Social Media Strategy by used toyota corolla</title>
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		<dc:creator>used toyota corolla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is great to hear that Toyota is also in to social causes because i had &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usedtoyotacorolla.com.au&quot; rel=&quot;dofollow&quot;used toyota corolla for a long time and I admire it for its reliability.

Jacob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is great to hear that Toyota is also in to social causes because i had &lt;a href=&#8221;http://www.usedtoyotacorolla.com.au&#8221; rel=&#8221;dofollow&#8221;used toyota corolla for a long time and I admire it for its reliability.</p>
<p>Jacob</p>
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		<dc:creator>liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a really good and timely response by Sixt-- I love when advertising can be super relevant and current like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a really good and timely response by Sixt&#8211; I love when advertising can be super relevant and current like this.</p>
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		<dc:creator>gr4ys blog - Jetzt macht es Sinn.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] denn schließlich ist das Ende wirklich sehr abgehackt. Aufmerksam bin ich durch den Artikel. Copy whatever works, the German seem to think geworden. Den Link dazu hat @denQuer getwittert.   Share and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] denn schließlich ist das Ende wirklich sehr abgehackt. Aufmerksam bin ich durch den Artikel. Copy whatever works, the German seem to think geworden. Den Link dazu hat @denQuer getwittert.   Share and [...]</p>
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